Angela's Online Discussion Group

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Angela's Online Discussion Group
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Response to: "Anonymous" and "Does it really matter?"--presumably the same person or working for the same company. --Also, if you are not one of these people (use the plural reluctantly) please see halfway down the message for the url for our other message board so you can have additional space to post. --Again, both news stories were posted at If you know which story you believe should be added, and are certain that it was not, please submit it to and it will be added. There is plenty of extra room to post at our other message board at: A part of my responses to you from the beginning included an invitation to post at this alternate site. I find the posts remaining on this forum of value as do many others. I will not be terrorized into editing per your ideas, because, it is not your site and you don't get to control things here. I bet I know who you are... You are likely Alan, Larry, or Randy (all employed by the teen torture industry) or a recently dismissed boyfriend, of a certain K.S., who is acting out. And, if you truly fully comprehended the rules of the board, you would notice that survivors (including myself) do not need to edit our posts and are free to use venomous language. You, the torturers and schills of the industry will never be allowed free reign to attack or confuse the truth. Not on my site. Not ever. If you don't want messages deleted ever and want this site to be as disorganized as Fornits, (I love Fornits, but, I find it to be unfortunate that schills for the industry are not deleted from the survivor forum), it's not going to happen. You can post at our other message board and when it gets too full, I'll start deleting those messages that lack substance and value as I do with this board. Anyone who promotes the torture of children for money is not welcome here. Pretty basic. And, regarding deleted messages... We've given you a second forum and if you are so positive that the wording and language wasn't offensive in these posts then you should be able to paraphrase and represent them in your arguments with some efficiency. And, noting your inefficient comprehension of my intention with this site as well as coordinator of HEAL, being, to stop the totalitarian thought police brainwashing torture camps such as Provo Canyon School, and actually celebrate liberty and freedom with a respect for all, is disconcerting. In fact, this whole exchange is a Hegelian nightmare. No one asked you to post your e-mail here so the world could attack you. I simply asked that you e-mail me directly so that we wouldn't waste webspace. But, you claim that you don't want to send an e-mail to me out of fear of being abused. Obviously, the exchange continued through the msg board where you claimed to be receiving offensive messages which you chose to read and respond to here anyway. And, if the messages were unwanted and you didn't wish to continue a private exchange you could send messages from me to the auto-delete file or spam list in through your e-mail mgmt program. Believe, me I have better things to do with my time. And would not pursue an unwanted exchange. And that is one of the ways you've disrespected this forum, by bringing up inconsequential complaints here instead of by reporting them to the webmaster, me, by e-mail. This will probably be digested and puked back out with only 1/16 truly comprehended. A real shame. Can't do any more for you. Hope you wake up some day.