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help with welsh check

can anyone tell me why the date is on this check please, is there any significance why? safety lamp number (on reverse).

Re: help with welsh check

Hi Pete

Nice Polo! It looks like its one of the smaller size types from your picture.

I have noticed that with some of the colliery companies, in Wales particularly, they incorporated the date of formation into their official title. I'm not sure why this was but suspect that it was to differentiate that company from an earlier, defunct company with the same or similar name.

So the date you see on this check doesn't refer to when it was necesarily made but was part of the campany's official trading name. I have seen a few other Welsh checks with similar dates in the title. The earliest one I can think of is a large format polo check (I think) from Naval Steam Coal Co. which as part of its official title included a formation date in the late 1880s 0r 90s.

Cheers

Mark

Re: help with welsh check

THANKS MARK, ITS 40MM DIA.

Re: help with welsh check

this check is for swaps, will swap for a yorkshire check/checks of similar standing that i need for my collection. all offers considered, please reply by email.

Re: help with welsh check

Pete, just to confirm what Mark said, it is a common practice to legally reconstitute companies by adding the date when they are reorganised. This often happens after they have gone bust and debts have had to be wiped out, but where the name is so well known that it would be counter productive or confusing to change it.
For instance, when Rolls Royce went bankrupt in 1971, the company ceased trading as Rolls Royce Ltd but immediately resumed trading as Rolls Royce (1971) Ltd, which was legally a new company (pay/tool checks now turn up in both styles).
In your part of the world there are checks for The Yorkshire Main Colliery (1923) Ltd, which I have always assumed to be for the same reason, but have never researched it.
These days it would no doubt be called protecting the brand value.
Apart from which, cracking check, I hope it swaps well.